by Hank Delcore (aka anthroguy) and Kiel Famellos-Schmidt.
Over at archop.org, we offer our take on the results of the Downtown Community Charrette held on May 10-15, 2010, by Moule & Polyzoides and the City of Fresno. Here we assess the charrette process.
City staff and the MPA team obviously value public input. Stefanos Polyzoides, Craig Scharton and the consultants and staffers consistently emphasized the need for and value of public participation, and took steps to make this a reality. The prodigious outreach efforts by MPA and the city paid off with strong attendance all week, particularly in the evening sessions. The heart of the public participation process was in the evening of May 12 (Wednesday) with over one hundred people present. There were significant public-consultant-city staff interactions on May 13 and May 15 (Thursday and Saturday) as well.
The charrette did, however, miss some excellent opportunities to tap into the creativity and knowledge of the community participants. We do not believe these flaws were the result of a lack of will to generate public input, but rather stem from some subtle choices in the way the charrette process was structured.
The charrette included noon consultant presentations on May 10-14 (Monday-Friday), interactive evening sessions on May 11-13 (Tuesday-Thursday), and a final presentation and some interactions on May 15 (Saturday). The noon sessions were expert presentations with Q&A, but did not involve significant chance for creative public input beyond asking and discussing. The evening sessions were more open, but in varying degrees.

Results of a "dot vote" on draft policy recommendations; participants use dots to identify their priorities.
On Tuesday, May 11, most of the session was devoted to MPA presentations. We had about 30 minutes for interacting with the consultants along a wall of pin-ups with current work products (e.g. proposed parks and open spaces). The MPA consultants were highly accessible and open to interaction and debate. However, pin-ups have limited utility for generating creative public input. The consultant stands with a work product pinned to the wall behind him. Members of the public approach the wall and discuss the product with the consultant. MPA’s consultants were certainly open to interaction – but the proxemics of the situation did not match the interactive intent of the session. Proxemically, the set-up is defensive: the consultant “makes a stand” with the work product behind or beside him. Also, considering other contexts in which people confront rectangular or square things mounted on walls – art museums, a friend’s house – the thing-on-the-wall is almost never meant to be actively altered. You don’t walk up to the Mona Lisa and start scrawling your suggestions on it. Thus, while the discussions along the wall Tuesday night were often open and smart, very few participants wrote on the work products. This is what we mean by a missed opportunity for creative public input. Finally, the pin-up tended to result in a series of one-to-one conversations of attendees and consultants: someone walks up and engages the consultant while others listen and wait their turn. Sometimes those waiting joined the conversation – mostly not. Hence, the pin-up did very little work of community building – something breakouts facilitate much better.
Wednesday night saw the first breakout sessions of the week. Each downtown community had a table with a map of the area and a poster board for writing. Community members congregated around the table and facilitators (drawn from the MPA team and city staff) presented them with preliminary policy recommendations developed from the stakeholder and community outreach process and city staff input in the months before the charrette. For example, one proposed policy item for west Fresno read, “Introduce middle income infill housing in traditional development building patterns.”
The breakouts saw some lively discussion, which the facilitators invited and encouraged. But again, the structure of the breakouts worked against creative interaction. First, the breakouts occurred around tables with maps and at least the potential for participants to put marker to map and point, draw or otherwise convey their views. Some tables had this kind of interaction, but most did not. Most activity was focused on discussion and writing input on the poster board. For a design-oriented event, then, this was a very “talky” breakout session, hence sacrificing the potential creative insight that comes when you actually invite people to interact with the materials. Second, the structure of the discussion was very close-ended. In other words, participants were given a list of policy items and invited to say “yes,” “no,” or “let’s talk about this one.”
In any information-gathering context, presenting an existing answer tends to bias the response toward the existing answer. (Some tables were more open-ended than others, but the session never broke free of close-ended parameters.) Several tables roiled with discussion – a good thing – and some policy recommendations were altered or added. But, predictably, most of the policy recommendations that went into the process came out of the session unchanged. Third, we question the utility of presenting community members with recommendations in planner lingo, like “infill”, “wayfaring” and “adaptive reuse.” Specialist language can be off-putting and dampen community members’ willingness to participate by signaling to them that they lack the knowledge to contribute.
How could the breakouts have been better structured? People gathered around a table have the potential to become co-imaginers and co-creators of possible future communities. A good breakout session starts with a clear agenda, but it doesn’t present the “answers” up front. A table with maps, markers, blank paper, post-its and colored dots is an opportunity for community members to creatively and visually imagine their community. We know that some people are more comfortable with visual or spatial interactions than with verbal exchange. The beauty of a good breakout is that anyone can talk, or draw, or scrawl, or point – but all these possibilities need to be part of the parameters of the breakout from the beginning.
One rationale for the relatively “talky” nature of this charrette was that downtown community issues are heavily driven by policy. We agree that the necessary emphasis on policy accounts for some of the relative de-emphasis of interactive design activity – but not all. For example, in the full session Wednesday night, before the breakouts, one west Fresno resident wondered how the proposed open space policies would affect the agricultural character of his neighborhood. Instead of talking about his question, a breakout session could have engaged him and others in actually showing the consultant team, spatially, with map and markers, how they understand the character of west Fresno and invite an interactive exchange on how policy might affect it. Another area where interactive design activities could have been useful was around form based code (or “regulating code”). The consultant team and city staff have done some stakeholder and community outreach on possible future codes but never engaged community members who went to the charrette in any design activities around FBCs. This was a missed opportunity to go beyond stakeholder outreach and access the fine-grained local knowledge of community members about the streets and buildings they experience day by day. We understand MPA intends to come back with future community input sessions once the FBC/regulating code is drafted; however, we wonder how open-ended the process could possibly be that late in the game.
Let’s be clear: the May 10-15 charrette did deliver on its promise of community participation in the downtown planning process. We sincerely congratulate the city and MPA on an informative and – to a fine extent – interactive week. We hope that our input here is taken constructively for future community involvement in the urban design and planning process.
Want more pictures? Tons of them are at the Dept. of Downtown and Community Revitalization’s facebook page.


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May 28, 2010 at 8:42 am
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May 28, 2010 at 11:22 am
Elliott Balch
Speaking for the City, we appreciate the kind words and are very pleased to have this kind of constructive feedback.
We have some rather intense charrette processes coming up this fall for the various aspects of the Fulton Corridor Specific Plan. To some extent, as you suggest, the nature of that Plan will facilitate a very hands-on, parcel-by-parcel design process. Notwithstanding the Plan format, we will be sure to incorporate these recommendations so that the process in the future is as good as it can possibly be.
Elliott Balch
Downtown Revitalization Manager
City of Fresno
May 28, 2010 at 2:07 pm
anthroguy
Thanks, Elliott. I appreciate how receptive you, Craig and the others in your office have been to this kind of input.
June 12, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Linda Gleason
Great snapshot of the reality of the process and level of participation in this planning effort. I can see that a layer is necessary at the ground level to begin to build an understanding for the relevance of this policy work with the residents from the communities of focus. In between the Charrettes we can work on building a groundswell of interest for residents to engage. Policy advocacy is the buzz term out there these days….how do we use this experience to train up the people????
July 10, 2010 at 2:17 am
Liviu Amariei
I was not aware that the people in the community were involved in getting the downtown in better shape. As I read, I think it is a very good thing this happens although I think there still needs to some guidance as to how all these ideas are implemented, and what could or not work. Building houses for middle income families in the area would certainly strengthen the community and the social environment. Another thing I was thinking was that it would be useful for the welfare of the businesses around there not to be charged parking. It is hard for the Fresno downtown to stay competitive, and this may seem counter-intuitive, but may be another thing that can be done to make things better.
Regarding policies, they should also reflect the view of the focus communities and not just that of the city.
July 22, 2010 at 11:12 am
Whitney P
Fresno’s Community Charrette Process (May 27, 2010) caused me to be impressed with the different ways (or different occasions) in which you tried to get community input. Since on the Wednesday night session the west Fresno resident did not share his question regarding the proposed open spaces policies, I think some people would benefit from being able to write their questions/concerns down prior to the start of the meeting. Thus the consultation team could address individual concerns for people who did not want to ask in front of others.
July 25, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Jared Maddox
I think that community involvement in project planning and design is very important. It is nice to individuals in the community coming together to help plan a better living environment. I liked how the posting observed how when the proposals were presented on a wall and the proposers were defending them from the “attacks” of the participants. That is not the best way for getting input on designs, as the blog noted.
I think that these community charrettes need more publicity to increase the number of participants, I myself would be interested in participating but would have no idea where or when they are held. I think in general, people care about how their community and how it is designed, they want to have a voice in the process but do not know how to speak their needs to the developers. That is why I believe there needs to be better publicity for these kinds of meetings.
July 26, 2010 at 10:11 pm
jessicagallegos925
Thank you for all the great information that you provided. It is always interesting to hear about downtown potential. I remember that when I was a child it was full of business unlike it is today. But things can get better for downtown. I believe that residence of Fresno should be more involve in trying to bring back great times spend in downtown by taking their families shopping at the stores located there. By having more special events that will help raise money to restore downtown. Since Fresno is one of the places where poverty is exceeding, we need to take action as a community. We all can bring something new, we are all full of ideas and promise. Therefore, we need to take action because the future of future generation dependent on us. In order to answer the question “How could the breakouts have been better structured?” everyone taking action should be well informed and in the same page as the rest.
July 27, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Carly R.
I agree with the statement that the proxemics of the presentation of the plans seemed defensive. Instead of being able to approach the plans and come to your own thoughts on it on your own terms, the observer was almost being watch themselves. I know I personally would feel pressured, even if nothing was said because someone was watching me. It’s like a car salesman who will not leave you alone to actually explore the car yourself to come up with your feelings toward it. Also, with you looking at the plans and asking the consultant it was already set up like you were attacking the plans instead of simply inquiring. This could possibly alter the way the consultant would answer because it would be a much more defensive answer than simply informative. The intention was most likely to simply get the word and plans out there, but the method was not the best one and did not fit the rest of the event.
In the break-out sessions it I notice that the biggest problems comes from the inability for people to truly become involved in the discussions because of the nature of the questions given. Anthropologists must learn to be very objective and not to give any leading questions. Being trained in that manner it is easy to see when it happens in other locations. It is a hard habit to break but it is also very necessary to get true and accurate responses from people. Another very intriguing point was about the word usage on the side of the presenters. I have been to many events that I do not participate because I didn’t quite understand the words they were using. It made the topic much harder to understand and made me feel unsure about speaking up for fear that I may have misunderstood what I thought they were trying to say. Although the words do play an important role for those within that major or profession they become a hindrance when used on a community level. If the point of the gathering is to get the reactions and ideas from the community then it must be in the terms that the majority will fully understand.
November 30, 2010 at 1:17 pm
hope
I am glad that the public has a voice when it comes to fixing up downtown Fresno. It’s important that we get involve since it is our town and we reside here. What we make of this city is important for us and the future ahead. I feel that such event as this should get more publicity. I live here in Fresno and would very much like to attend one. How would I find out when and where it will be held?
December 7, 2010 at 6:57 pm
Richard V.
I have been hearing a lot about the idea for the new possible downtown Fresno. I also often thought about where these ideas came from. I thought of these ideas comming from some city planners office that really had no contact with the neighborhood that was being planned. Its nice to know that the community is being involved in the planning of what will be a new and improved downtown Fresno. The breakouts as they are called was a great way to get citizens to provide input into the planning of their community. After all whatever changes are made they are the ones that have to live with those changes. However, it was stated that some of the breakout were not as productive as they could have been. This is to be expected after all because the people that are participating in these breakouts are not city planners or have any experience in planning a development. At least they are willing to take an active role in the process and should be applauded for that. I especially liked the idea for a new west fresno. That would be a great way to energize that area of Fresno. By making middle income housing in that area it would completley change the way the rest of Fresno looks at it. People would be excited to live in the area and maintain it. The way it is right now is not the best potential for it. It is mostly used for farmland but as far as the housing goes it only provides low income housing. That doesnt offer the best atomosphere for that area to be taken care of. After all this seems like a great way for community members to learn more about what it takes for city planners to do their job. This was also an opportunity for people to understand why some ideas work and why some ideas do not.
December 7, 2010 at 7:30 pm
Mandeep Sanghera
Downtown Community renovation is a great idea, and who better to suggest ideas than those that live there or will live there in the future. I personally had heard about the plan made by mayor Ashley Swearengin when she was first introduced the idea on the news, at the time she gave examples of other successful downtown renovations. I personally thought it was a great way to get the downtown area up and going again.
Although the meetings sessions held by the city officials did not get as much public input as hoped for I believe they had good intentions and truly wanted to get some kind of public opinion on the issues. They may have not had much experience with public input meetings or they may not have even realized that the way the meeting was setup was not efficient for public suggestions. I like what Whitney has suggested about having the participants write down suggestions and concerns prior to the meeting to get input from those who would like to give their input. I think another way to get input is to have a suggestion box type of thing some may be reluctant to ask questions or give their ideas. Also, for those that do not have time to stay for the interactive session can still give their input via the suggestion or idea box. One problem that was mentioned in the blog was the fact that the language maybe intimidating for the public, I agree. If the language is over your head you won’t understand what is being discussed and therefore will not be give your input, which may be a disadvantage to the city because they would be missing out on ideas that may benefit the city and community.
December 8, 2010 at 6:26 pm
Amanpreet R
I was wonderful idea to hold a session for public to get their in put on city’s future. T was great opportunity for the local community to participate and have their input what is city of Fresno going to do in the future to make City successful in the future. It is sad to see local people showing up but not participating. I thing most of the people are shy to teak in public. Sometime people believe their input is not going to make a difference. It ce presenters responsibility to make audience feel that their view will make difference.
December 11, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Sovron M.
It is very interesting to read that downtown Fresno is being revamped into a better shape than what it is now. Downtown Fresno is surely not the side of town that I often go to visit, which is a shame. When I think of downtown, I’m lost into the one way street trying to find my way out of there. There are a lot of potential for downtown, and I’m grateful that something is being done to revamp this part of town. I give credit to the City staff and the MPA team that made this charrette happened.
The communities turned out of this event were great, but not a lot of people were aware of this event at all. I believe if this event were more publicized, a lot of people would likely be there. There were some flaws in regards to the charrette process as stated on the blog. The community participants were there, but unfortunately, the structured of the charrette process limited the participants to generate public input.
From reading this blog, it is nice to know that people in our communities still care about what goes on in our downtown area. From what I heard, downtown Fresno used to be the center of attention where families often go to eat or shop there. Now, the center of the attention is in River Park which is on the other side of town. By revamping downtown area, we can show to other cities or states that Fresno is not just another town, but has a very lively downtown where people often go to enjoy and hang out. I think the pro of revamping downtown area is to generate businesses, cleaning up the area and beautifying it. If our downtown is cleaned up, and full of people; there will be less crimes or homelessness surrounding the area. As for the con of doing this, who will end up paying for the project? How much will it costs? What steps needed to be done in order to get this project going? Is it the tax payer responsibility or is it the government funding the project? All this questions come into play, and of course there are more. That is why I think community involvement play a vital role in the project planning and design process.
December 12, 2010 at 11:04 pm
Tarisha Thapar
Public being involved is the greatest thing that the county can do. People are the ones that have to go with the problems and also they would be the best ones to all the information from. I can see why people do not like to participate because they might feel as though them coming out will not make a difference, but every thought should count. But there are many ways to get a persons thoughts and opinions out there because there are suggestion and drop off boxes. Some people might even think the event is going to take to long and it will not matter to them. Will the more involved people get with their community the better outcomes could be made for the future. Language can also be an issue that many people living here might have, but that never means that participation should not be done. There should be translators I feel because there could be many people that fully do not understand what kinds of topics are being talked about or the issue of the problem.
December 13, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Pahoua Xiong
Fresno is a big city compared to other central valley cities but Fresno downtown does not stand out as other citys’ downtown. For example, I went to an art show in Fresno downtown last summer and the place looked plain, empty and nothing is special about it. It is near where the homeless people are living and I can say that Fresno downtown looks “ghetto.” Some people, including myself, are scare to walk downtown of Fresno. Whereas, Merced downtown seems safe and the area is actually clean and nice to walk around. The art museum in small city of Merced in downtown is actually way better than a big city’s museum in Fresno downtown. I think it is a good idea to redesign Fresno downtown. But we are going to need more than just parks and open spaced for the communities. The buildings are really old and there are too many homeless people living near there. We need to rebuild the buildings or remake it and remove the homeless people elsewhere in order to create an attracted site of the Fresno downtown.
December 16, 2010 at 7:20 pm
ryanbsmith
I agree with Liviu that building houses for middle income families in the area would certainly strengthen the community. I think this will attract more businesses such as grocery stores like save mart to the area if more families were living there. This will help jump start the downtown Fresno area, in making it a productive area.
Participation is also important because the future should have ideas/input from the people that are going to live in the area. The downtown area has huge potential to be an attractive place for Fresno citizens to live and visit each day.
December 16, 2010 at 7:52 pm
ZohraH
It is nice to hear that the community has an input on the changes that come to their city. I previously thought that these changes were made by city officials and the people had no say when they are the ones who live in that particular neighborhood and know what might be best for that part of town. Its nice to learn that individuals in the community are involved in getting the downtown area in better shape. I believe that community involvement is very important. Its nice to see the number of individuals who want to take the stand and improve our living environment. I also would be interested in taking stand but do know where to start. If these meetings were publicized I believe there would be more positive results. If these meetings were publicized I believe there would be more involvement by individuals like me who do not know where to go. Honestly, who wouldn’t want to be part of improving the well being of their hometown?
December 19, 2010 at 11:55 am
RicardoP
well after reading this blog it seems that the team that put this together may have only reached par of its goals. Now that you know how to get the community to show up perhaps your game plan should focus more on the interaction. you should provide those that attend a guideline without giving an actual guideline maybe have someone run through the interaction process let them know that they are there to create a different type of interaction like you wrote a more material oriented interaction. well it seems like there is great effort put into these events keep on trying new things and i believe you will get the results your looking for
May 10, 2011 at 11:55 pm
HannahD
I think that is a good idea to gather individuals in the community and let them be involved in planning and designing a better living environment. I like the idea of providing a map of the area and a poster board for community members. It can help the community members develop their opinions or ideas of how to make Fresno’s downtown area a better place. In general, I think people care about their community and they want to make a change for the future within their community. They have a lot of ideas but they don’t know how to develop these ideas within their needs. I am not from Fresno and only moved here for school, but I am really interested in participating in projects that may be available. However, I have no idea how to find out where and when they are held or even if they are available.
May 13, 2011 at 12:25 am
Marisol Vera
The community is all what a city have. In other words, the community is what creates a city because we the people are who makes a difference in our community and our city as well. This article is very interesting because it describes how the community and the city get involved together to come to a decision of renovating the old things for new things in their community.I always thought the mayor or the person in charge to do this privilages mentioned above, were at front from any changes in the city, but instead both the community and the city are who decides what to improve and change in their cities. On the other hand, people feel counted and appreciated because the city take in consideration their needs and personal opinions of what they want their cities to have or what they want to change because it feel old and instead they want things to be new and excitign for other people who comes and visit as turist to see and experience.