In a recent posting on the Harvard Business blog site, anthropologist Grant McCracken explains why the idea of a “new normal” — “the idea that when income, credit and confidence return, Americans will not return to our free-spending ways” – is off base. He believes that once the immediate crisis is past, American consumers will resume breakneck consumption rates.
Why? In short, because we as Americans have developed an enduring set of practices that involve making and maintaining social lives through consumption. These practices are not ephemeral, and we will not simply slough them off in the face of the “Great Recession.” They run deeper, and they’ll be back soon enough.
In his short piece, McCracken paints a portrait of “Susan,” a composite of consumers he has known through research. Susan has a garage full of stuff – so much that her cars are relegated to the driveway. She just spent $45,000 to remodel her kitchen/dining/living room into a single “great room” so she can better socialize with dinner guests and not feel “like a servant” in her own home, shunted away in the kitchen while her guests yuck it up on the other side of a wall between her and the living room.
Let’s review some ways we might interpret Susan:
Susan is a shallow, grasping materialist whose life is empty and meaningless, and so she is trying to fill it with stuff.
Susan is just exercising her god-given right to spend her (or her family’s) well-earned money however she sees fit, and who are we to criticize her.
Susan is a status-seeking machine. This is all about display. Susan is asking us to look at what she has, can afford to have, etc. – and to register her relatively high position on some scale of social hierarchy.
To some extent, McCracken turns away all of these options in favor of a less sound-bitey, but more satisfying, conclusion: Susan’s consumption practices are acts of personal and social self-definition. From the garage to the great room, her consumption enables her to enact, socially, the kind of person she wants to be. (By the way, McCracken focuses on someone with quite a bit disposable income, but this process of personal/social self-definition can hold in different ways all across and up and down the socioeconomic spectrum.)
In an exchange with a commenter to the piece, McCracken sums it up nicely: “Americans are especially interested, for several technical reasons, in using the object world, their material culture, to [define themselves].”
What I like about this post is that it represents classic anthropology. McCracken is trying to see things from Susan’s point of view. He resists easy judgment passing. He’s sympathetic to Susan; he credits her with being as much a smart, self-aware person as his readers and commenters.
Personally, I do wonder if perhaps Susan is grasping and materialistic in ways that I (again, personally) find disheartening. But McCracken’s point is that, whatever your judgments are, Susan is so much more than that. She is an American socio-cultural creature whose life is sensible and meaningful to her given her time and place. (By the way, I don’t mean “meaningful” in some cosmic sense; I simply mean that that she does what she does for reasons that fit, given the rest of her context. She is not an idiot or a dupe.) Morally judge her if you will, but if you want to understand her, leave your judgments at the door.
By the way, McCracken mentions a just-published book called Shoptimism: Why the American Consumer Will Keep on Buying No Matter What, by Lee Eisenberg. I bought it and I’m in the middle of it. If you’re deep into retail, marketing, or the science of consumption, you won’t find much new here. It’s breezy and a bit over-general. But, Eisenberg is a fun writer and he’s concentrated lots of stuff in one place, with half the book on the current state of the “Sell” side, and half on the “Buy” side. I recommend it. Eisenberg mentions this fun website – check it out, too.
[Anthroguy (Hank Delcore), TheAnthroGeek (Jim Mullooly), and two other Fresnans (anthropology alum Alecia Barela and current anthro major Kim Arnold) are in Philadelphia presenting papers at the American Anthropological Association Annual Meeting. They will share a panel with two former Fresno State anthro students, Michael Scroggins and Anne Visser, now pursuing graduate studies at Columbia and the New School, respectively.]

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December 4, 2009 at 11:01 am
kelly K
The reasoning of Susan and her new kithc dining room can be for the various reasons stated in the article. Although to spent so much money on something like that may appear to be more materialist rather than her wanting to do it so she can just better entertain her guests. However you cannot just judge that she was doing it for one reason or the other until you actually know this person, then you would be able to make a better judgement to why she would spend so much on this at a time of struggle. It appears to be true that people will continue spending as the times improve, its in our nature to do so for some reason. Everyone has their wants and at times they may have to hold off on them because of being short on money. Eventually though they will finally get their want and diregard a need if they have to. It depends how people are raised and how well people are able to manage their own money in the time that we are in now.
It is all about the person that you are and how you decide to use and spend your money. No one should judge as the article states leave your judgements at the door if you really want to understand her reasoning. That seems to be hard for some to understand, not everyone is able to just learn for themselves they rather assume what they want and not fully grasp the real reasoning that is behind it all.
December 13, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Michelle smith
I agree with Kelly. We really have no business judging her decision to remodel her house without talking to her about it. Not to mention that not everyone is having a hard time with money right now. A lot of people are not going through a hard ship with money. The economy has not affected them. I think it is a good thing that some people are still out there spending money. Someone needs to keep our economy going. Supporting the retail stores and other businesses.
December 4, 2009 at 11:43 am
Adam Shamoon
I have to agree in part with anthropologist, Grant McCracken. He feels the “new normal” will be that Americans will return to their free-spending ways following this economic depression. I also see people like “Susan” who have not slowed down their consumption of goods at all.
McCracken as an anthropologist takes a look at one example of a person who spends like crazy. He probably should not generalize all “American” in the same boat however. For example, just within my own family I see vast differences between those who spend the same as they always have. My cousins get their nails done, spend a lot on cell phones and buy expensive gas. They have no fear of the future and assume that America will always be the “land of opportunity.” My grandfather on the other hand has lived through the Great Depression as well as 3 major wars. He has been thrifty his whole life. He constantly tells me about when there were no programs such as welfare, Medicare, Medicaid, and unemployment to help people out, and if our own economy gets into any more trouble, these programs won’t necessarily be there for us.
I agree with McCracken in that people have become used to a comfortable way of life and have learned to be materialistic and buy, buy, buy. He focuses on “Susan” (who has a lot of money) and uses her as an example or generalization about most Americans which to me is inaccurate.
December 5, 2009 at 8:48 am
anthroguy
Fyi, “Susan” is a composite of many different people McCracken has known in the course of a few decades of research, as I noted above. He is not using one person to generalize — he’s using a lot of data to make a general point, not that Americans are “materialistic” but simply that we make social and individual lives through stuff. Granted, there are variations in how different people and segments of society do that, but this is the general theme in our society he is pointing out.
December 17, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Paloma
I agree with you, I think that people did not ever think that this was going to happen again. Our society has taken for granted the help that is available such as credit cards, loan, and their jobs. Hopefully after this crisis people will value the money they have and stop spending so much on junk. Money seems to be used for useless stuff or just to have the coolest new trend. Our society needs to realize how fast our economy can drop and leave people jobless. It is sad to see families loose thier homes becuase they cannot afford to make the payments. This should be a wake up call not to take for granted the money they have and not to depend so much on credit cards.
December 8, 2009 at 12:13 am
Josh F
I don’t agree, I think that this depression has opened the eyes of American’s and is showing the real value of money. I think that this tough economic crisis, American’s are starting to save and be on the constant look out for deals. This is a good thing because IF, we get out of this mess any time soon I trust that people will understand how fast this kind of thing can hit our country. With this knowledge hopefully American’s will save more then the I trust that people will understand how fast this kind of thing can hit our country. With this knowledge hopefully American’s will save more then the spend and if we ever do get back to where we are now people will be prepared. Another hope that I have is that once people begin to build up their bank accounts we will stop depending so much on credit cards. A depression is a good way to show people how fast debt can build. It is also a good way to force people to stop charging everything and shred their cards, just the way a lot of American’s have today. Once people show themselves that life goes on after credit cards, I would like to see the use of them decline. When its all said and done I think that the best way to cope with this crisis is to take the good out of it and continue pressing forward.
December 9, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Joseph A
I agree with you Josh. I feel that this depression has hit home to a many people and has made them think twice before spending money on things that are not needed. Because of the large number of people who were affected by this depression I believe that it will have a greater impact on the amount of people who continue to live being very cautious with how they spend money. Yeah there are still going to be the few people who don’t care and spend money on whatever they want, but I feel that the number of people will decrease significantly. I could only hope so at least, or we are going to continue to run our country into more and more debt and have more situations like we have right now.
December 4, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Chasity Maske
The blog states that Americans use their material culture to define themselves. I believe that this statement is correct. Consumers buy what they like, what they can see themselves in or using, and not necessarily what they can afford. (That’s what credit cards and loans are for.) I think that people often paint pictures by their material possessions of how they want people to view or see them. From the description of Susan we get the impression that Susan is wealthy because she just spent 45K to remodel her house and to ultimately “impress” her friends and family. What if she could not afford 45K? What if she just spent the money even though she could not afford it, just to impress or put on a false front of what she really has and who she really is as a person? This is why I think that people buy things that define who they are. An example is clothing, people don’t just buy what appeals to them, they buy what they think other people will like (as in other people I mean people at the same social status as them.) The best example is high school. There are the “jocks” who wear their letterman jackets, the “preps” who wear pastel colored cardigans, the “geeks” who wear their jeans too high and the taped glasses, the “goths” who wear all black etc. People buy products whether it is clothing, cars, or houses to define who they are or how they wan their community to think they are.
December 4, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Adam Shamoon
I agree in part with anthropologist, Grant McCracken. He feels the “new normal” will be that Americans will return to their free-spending ways following this economic depression. I also see people like Susan who have not slowed down their consumption of goods at all. McCracken takes a look at one example of a person who spends like crazy. He probably should not generalize about all Americans as being like Susan. For example, just within my own family I see vast differences between those who spend money the same as they always have. My cousins get their nails done, buy expensive clothes and gas, and use their cell phones more than ever. On the other hand, my grandfather, who has lived through the depression and 3 wars is very thrifty. He is always warning me about the dangers of not planning ahead and saving. McCracken sums up his blog site by stating that Americans are interested in their material culture to define themselves. Yes, I’m sure this applies to many people. A friend of mine had to buy $180. pair of Uggs because then she would be cool. How sad. However, I have to disagree with McCracken’s somewhat limited viewpoint of people. Particularly as an observation by an anthropologist, I would think that his generalizations about “many” based on “one” person is kind of narrow thinking.
December 5, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Tyler Riddick
I thought that this article was very interesting and it seemed to hold true for many people I know, including myself. I have always felt that the way you present yourself (clothes, style, etc.) is a reflection of who you are. I sometimes buy expensive clothes and things as an indication of my status. Likewise, I like to take my girlfriend out to fancy restaurants for the same reason. I am a college student, however, so the nice clothes and the fancy meals are a seldom occurrence, but I can definitely relate to the article. I think that this concept is embedded in the minds of Americans since childhood. We are told that the American dream is to grow up, have a well-paying stable job, a spouse and family, a nice house with a white picket fence, a pool, etc. These things are all cultural norms that reflect your socioeconomic status. This status is in turn a direct reflection oh what someone thinks of us as a person. People who have a good job are thought of as hard workers and are dedicated and intelligent. Someone with a nice family is a good caregiver, spouse, and parent. A lot of the things that we do as Americans are done because of status. We want to mold and create how we are perceived by other people using material things. It is harder to be a nice person, than it is to wear nice clothes and drive a nice car.
December 5, 2009 at 10:42 pm
JulianaR
I found this article very interesting, but the information was not much of a surprise. The thought of a garage packed with useless items that have been accumilating for decades screams American home to me! Not only have we’ve been trained by tradition to be superficial, but also to be pack rats. Yes, there are few (including myself) that are NOT a “Susan”, but the Susans out there make it hard for me to live my life. It’s hard competeing with a Susan when you are thankful for your small home that may not be able to seat 12 in a formal dining room. You may not be a social queen because you don’t house parties all the time, but who wants friends that only use you for your alcohol and hors d’oeuvres? As an Interior Designer, I do appreciate a nice space that allows for easy entertaining, but when it is at the expense of being a consumer-whore then what is the point? The point is, Susan needs to appreciate the items she purchases and buy SMART.
I have actually gotten into the great habit of purchasing items used. When I needed a chair for my room, I search craigslist and yard sales. I found a oak swivel-rocker chair from the 40’s at a yard sale. I purchased it for $10 and have completely refurbished it (add $10 for the items it took to do so). I looked online to see how much a similar rocker goes for now-a-days and was shocked to find them running around $400! Susan would have jumped on that TERRIBLE deal in a heartbeat. What I gained from that great yard sale item was not only a killer deal, but priceless time with my dad as we worked on it together.
Susans usually want something, so they go get it as soon as they can, and then they get it home and use it twice to just despose of it in a year (or pile it into their garage). Susan needs to think more sentimentally and less superficially.
December 6, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Gabriel R
The old saying “You are what you eat” or in this case “you are what you buy” seems to jump into my head after reading about Susan. In a capitalistic society most things are given a monetary value. It should come as no surprise then that even our culture has become a form of currency, where people use the items they own as expressions of their individuality. I laugh at this idea, until I realize that I too am part of Susan. The computer I own a Mac is part of an identifying piece about me, it kinda of states ” I am not a member of PC owning masses.” Although I don’t really think that, just until recently owning a mac has been counter culture. Another idea is the cars/trucks that people own that become extensions of their supposed individuality. For example, young males with their lifted 4X4 trucks and loud exhausts have a distinctly different message than the eco-friendly Prius. Whether their message is overt or unintentional it sends a message nonetheless.
I agree with McKracken in his notion that Consumerism is here to stay. The products we buy are not meant to last forever, but are built to last only set lengths as to create the future need of said product. This is also accomplished by the fact that most times it is far cheaper to replace an item than to repair an item. So what is a consumer to do? I personally try to buy second hand via craigslist or ebay if I can, and have generally tried to live a much more frugal life. However, the call of owning something new has been pitched perfectly by marketing folks.
December 6, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Cary Reents
I would have to agree that many people use material items to define themselves in a modern world. Many people say Possesion is 9/10ths of the Law. People today are being more cautious with their spending due to the economy. But, as we have seen in the past, when the economy starts becoming more favorable there will be a larger market for material items. Consumerism is the equation of personal happiness with consumption and the purchase of material possessions. I also believe that it is here to stay for a very long time. It is also very present in our society as well. There are numerous television shows that promote consumerism and the theory that material items define who and what a person is all about. Most people today continue to buy numerous things out of want and continue to “pack in the attic” the older versions of the same item just in case it becomes useful again. The article comments very well on the idea that people enjoy spending money when it is available to them. When the economy allows use to be consumers, we will consume all we can. When the economy crashes, we find ourselves still buying the same things, but waiting for them to be on sale!
December 6, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Edgar Sepulveda
I do not have anything against going out and spending big because I do it myself any chance I get. There are a few reasons for this. Whenever a person spends money on things because someone else owns whatever object they have, I consider it a problem. If it’s just to impress and create a sense of envy or higher status, I consider it a problem. I believe a person should make the best of what they have of course. It doesn’t take expensive “stuff” to be happy but Americans have developed an attachment to their material “stuff” and that makes us go out and spend cash on newer, better things. I have to be honest and admit that once I’m done with school and I’m ready to join a company out there in the “over the minimum wage” work force, I will spend as I can. Not because I want to show off but because life in this country is not easy. This country is full of horrible people that are the first ones to point their fingers to judge; is one reason. Finding a good paying job without an education is hard, especially with the way the economy is right now. However, the biggest reason is because education is too expensive and I find myself paying too much money for a tuition that is too high for the amount of education I receive each semester. Feels as if my education is being rushed onto me so no, I would never judge Susan. I will in fact join her in the big market’s world and spend my money, not for status but because I will deserve it.
December 6, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Gary Grubb
This is an interesting article in which this topic can be debated forever in society. There are several different ways to look at an article like this and I think McCracken had many interesting key points. I believe that he is right about society and that more than ever these days we have become very materialistic when it comes to status. We want the best and the newest stuff no matter what the cost of that might be. Society has become greedy as a whole to strive for hierarchy. I feel like we can learn a lesson in this article because we as society do often times judge a book by its cover. We don’t know why Susan wanted the “great room,” it would be clearer to us if we knew what kind of person Susan is. It is very easy to judge people on the outside looking in when we don’t have all the details and information. But once you do have those details and information, your ideas could change drastically and you find yourself wondering how you judged that person in the first place.
December 8, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Ray Millard
I agree with you Gary, we are a capitalistic society. I believe that Americans will continue to be one for a long time. It is going to take a lot of changes in order for Americans to evolve the way we look at materialistic objects. I feel that it is more important for individuals to take on the responsibility of preparing for future market changes and not the government’s responsibility. We can only blame ourselves for improper anticipation of our financial future.
December 13, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Josh F
I agree that people are going to spend their money; I just hope some people learned from this “depression”. I think that Americans can now realize how fast money can come and go, even on a National basis. What I fear the most is when the day does come that our economic crisis has ended, people begin to spend like it’s going out of style. If that were the case we would be right where we are now in a matter of a few years. I realize that money needs to be spent in order to stimulate the economy, but at the same time the more money is spent the less the dollar really means. A big part of the problem is that Americans are too materialistic. We want the nicest product and as son as we can get it. Why not shop at less expensive stores and pay with the cash in our pocket, instead of shopping at high end stores and using a credit card?
December 7, 2009 at 9:24 am
Ken B
Consumerism has become so much a part of the way of life for us, Americans. However, one would like to think that with the recent economic recession, that consumers would learn to better manage their finances. This “new normal” mentality of consumerism, I do not believe will last. I have to side with McCracken when he says that Americans will contiue spending large amounts of their money as soon as the economy seems to be picking up. We, as a nation, have become so ingrained with the idea that buying expensive items and displaying them in our houses makes us better people. This mentality will not be stopped by the current recession. On the topic of Susan, I don’t think that we can judge her as being immoral. First, she is just a composite thing which McCracken made up for his paper. Second, her actions, when put into the contect of the American society, are not that mauch different then many others. People are always spending money on items and clothes that they feel will make themselves look better or more influential then they really are. If people have a problem with Susan, then they should really look at themself and see how similiar their actions are compared to Susan.
December 7, 2009 at 1:56 pm
RussellW
First off congratulations and good luck to you Fresno State students in Philadelphia. Anyway, I think this article brings a lot of truth about us “Americans”, but I also believe that everyone’s comments on how everyone is different and can’t base or generalize all Americans off of one person. I have a mixture of friends from different social classes and different beliefs, which allows me to see the different sides to this article. Some of them do buy things and have to have things they don’t really need, but on the other hand some of my friends don’t have the money to do so and don’t care about the clothes they wear or the cars they drive, they’re just spending their money on a means to survive. For me, I am the opposite of Susan, there are many things I want and a lot of them I can afford, but I was raised to spend my money wisely so I don’t buy them. I admit that I do break down sometimes and buy things, but if I do I am a bargain shopper. Most of my money I have earned over my lifetime (since graduating high school) has been going to my retirement, because I think of the future and am not an impulse buyer like Susan and most Americans.
December 7, 2009 at 2:56 pm
SoniaI
I have to say this was an interesting article to read, the perspective of a anthropologist has given me something to really reflect upon. Although the economy has impacted a great majority of American lives, I would hope it that it has been profound enough to make people stop and think. I would also like to believe that individuals will be more conservative towards their spending in the future. However, this may be unlikely…I hate to be so cliché but we have repeatedly seen how “history repeats itself.” Anthropologist Grant McCracken makes a bleak but true observation about most peoples spending habits. They have been conditioned into maintaining a high standard of living, with the inevitable consequence of debt. I also agree with McCracken’s point regarding obtaining materials to define us, especially in our culture.
December 10, 2009 at 3:49 am
Marlene Ortiz
We do often rely on objects to define us rather than relying on ourselves to make the decisions. I also found this article interesting. I can relate to what is being said. It makes me think about how I define myself and in what ways I do it in. If I had extra money to spend I suppose that I would spend it on material things that would satisfy me, but since I don’t have anything extra I stopped going to the mall completely to eliminate any sort of temptation. I actually have to go tomorrow so I guess I will put myself to the test. We’ll see what I come home with and if my impulse shopping takes over again.
December 7, 2009 at 3:41 pm
KatKingKaze
The point of view demonstrated in this article to be very interesting. I feel that It leaves out a very valid additional point…one that I have expressed on this blog before.
Americans are heavily manipulated by marketing. Americans are assaulted by commercial appeals for their money at a staggering rate. Our own government even manipulates us to spend as a means to improve the economy and create jobs.
Yes Americans have changed in the post depression era, from savers into spenders, but why? What was the catalyst of change?
Are Americans just a bunch of, want to be “alpha” dogs fighting for the biggest bit of the “kill of the day”? I do agree that the whole “Defining ourselves by how much we can get” is getting out of control. I have a “Susan” that lives next door to me and I feel sorry for her. The more stuff a person accumulates, the more time the person must devote to the care, storage and protection from theft. I much rather take a vacation with my family.
My Grandfather says it is related to the fact that there is just more stuff to want these days. I am highly inclined to agree…thoughts?
December 7, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Chirag Patel
I agree with anthropologist, Grant Mccracken, he feels the “new normal” will be that American will return to their free spending ways following this economic depression. History does support this fact, for example when we were in Great Depression people had to cut back in spending but, when depression was over people came back to their regular spending. The article states that American use their material to define them. I believe that is true in some cases but not in all instance. For example I think Susan spending $45,000 in kitchen appears to be more materialist than accommodate her guests. In contrast my uncle who’s millionaire but, he do not believe in materialist world for example he can afford Lexus and Mercedes, but he still driving his 1995 Toyota Camry.
I think it is culture, family and environment peoples grew up makes a big difference in how you decide to use and spend your money. For example my girlfriend get her nail done, spend a lot of money on clothes and hair. She has no fear of future because that’s how she grew up watching her mom and dad.
December 17, 2009 at 11:43 pm
Jasmeen K
I agree with you that how people spend and manage money have a lot to do with a person’s culture. For example, Indians, our parents work hard and are always saving up money for the future, towards their kids, or home. This way we pick up the same way of managing our money when we are earning our paychecks. Also I don’t think there is anything wrong with spending money when you have it; what’s the point of having a lot of money when you are not willing to spend it. Many people who are considered rich, are because they don’t spend their money, whatever they make, they save it.
December 8, 2009 at 11:24 am
MarcoL
Is Susan considered a materialistic woman? Is she considered socially challenged that she requires this $45,000 kitchen and great room upgrade for the sake of “fitting in?” As the judgmental people that we are; there are many questions that may arise of Susan’s scenario and the only answer would be is to look at our own habits and social status for consideration of our eminence. I agree with many of McCracken’s assessments of Susan, however, the true answer could only be known by personally knowing her. Many choices we make may or may not have the right reasons behind them to justify doing them or spending an excess amount of dollars for certain incentives. If you think Susan spending $45K on remodeling three rooms to convert it into one was a lot; what would you say about this guy? I personally know a friend who spent over $70,000 on remodeling just the kitchen alone. He did mention to me that he was doing it because he wanted the best materials and items. Did he have the funds to spend that amount? I don’t know: however, in my opinion, that was an extreme amount of money for one room. He spent remodeling one room almost as much as what I spent for the purchase my first home, nonetheless, he is my friend, and my judgmental outlook on his decision on the amount of money is that of my own.
December 8, 2009 at 12:13 pm
michelleva
I agree to a certain extent that we as Americans will return to our over spending ways. On the other hand there are people who have lived through some hard times (as was mentioned people who lived through the depression) and their ways of spending do not change. I agree that America has a problem, we know this from the financial situation our country is in. Overspending has become a way of life. We have lots of cars, filled garages, and don’t even own a home yet. People are falling deeper and deeper into debt spending to make themselves happy.
On the other hand I know many families who have always been very cautious with their spending. They use coupons and compare prices before they buy. These families usually grew up in a home where their parents did the same. Although comparing prices and clipping coupons can be a hassle they have found that they enjoy what they bought more because they know they found it at a great price.
If Susan has the money to change her home, I see no problem in doing that. Whether she does it for herself or for her social status is unknown. If “things” are what make a person happy, I believe there is no satisfying that need. If Susan has the $45K and has wanted this remodel for a long time then big deal, why not. Yet what we don’t know is if she has a large amount of debt already or is using her savings to pay for it.
We have all been in this position whether we would like to admit it or not. We see something we have to have and buy it knowing that wasn’t the smartest idea. We either didn’t have the money for it or just realized that we bought it just to fill our spending need. We aren’t perfect, and we will continually struggle to find that balance of how much we can spend, and what makes us genuinely happy. This Christmas season is a large reminder of this. We think we need something when we really don’t, or we want to get the best present. To each their own. How many people go into debt because of Christmas and is it really worth it?
December 8, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Ray Millard
This article presents a very good debate that is taking place in every home. I believe that it is hard to break old habits unless you have gone through enough conflict that will lead you to a strong desire to change. In Susan’s case, she has not endured enough hard times to change her habits. She will continue to make decisions based off her own old habits. However, I agree “Susan is just exercising her god-given right to spend her (or her family’s) well-earned money however she sees fit, and who are we to criticize her.” The only issue I have with this comment is; if Susan makes a decision that will result in determinant to Americans that will eventual pay for it, then that is not right. For example, if Susan remodels her kitchen knowing that she will be extending herself and could possibly need to declare bankruptcy with any small change in her income or financial status, then she should not follow through with the spending. As Americans, we have the right to try to keep up with the Jones unless the Jones are living off of the Government’s help.
December 8, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Andrew S
I completely agree with that the new normal is completely off base. The idea of buying materialistic items to make us happy isn’t goin to change because of this recession. In fact, we are still buying things that we don’t need. For example, I am a proud owner of an iphone, but I tell you right now that it is not out of neccessity. It is something that I really don’t need and I could do without if I had to. Must have items like this are going to continue recklessly spend, especially when this recession is over.
In regards to Susan, I feel along the lines of “Susan is just exercising her god-given right to spend her (or her family’s) well-earned money however she sees fit, and who are we to criticize her.” She can spend her money anyway she wants, as long as she is a positive contributor to our nations system.
December 10, 2009 at 3:37 am
Marlene Ortiz
I also own an IPhone not because I need it, but because I want it. I can do without the $85-$90 dollar monthly payment, but I choose to keep it because it entertains me and it is convenient. I work really hard just to cover my bills and I don’t make it easier for myself by switching to a less expensive phone. After using it for so long, I don’t want to give it up. It’s a personal choice. Just like “Susan’s” choice.
December 8, 2009 at 6:17 pm
kelly K
I feel that some americans have changed a little but when better times come around and the depression has subsided they will go back to the old ways. Its only a hold on stuff for some they know they can’t spend spend spend all the time but they will when they get the chance. Its in some peoples nature to do so. This depression is just a minor set back to the spending spree that people are use to going on. Not to be cruel to anyone but I don’t really understand what the point is to spend all the money on materalistic things. What really is the benefit of spending on an expesive idea that really will later serve no purpose at the end. COuld it really be so others will like them or that they have to show off things that they have because it will make them seem like better people? Its a bit confusing to me. ALthough this may be do to how I myself was rasied and how I was taught to spend money. We learn from our own little cultures I guess. As well as through our own experiences. After this little down fall though people maybe shy abotu spending at first but in the end they will return to what they are use to doing.
December 17, 2009 at 1:59 am
NimA
I agree with your assessment of how it comes down to how an individual is raised, but perhaps some one didn’t get that benefit of experience from either parent or guardian. But one would expect that the ups and downs that one would get as they mature would lead to budgeting and spending habits that would maintain a descent/healthy financial stance. I guess there would be some individuals though that would not learn and always be in dire straits. One could only hope that we all learned in this time of depression and learn to live within our means, whether were like Sarah or not.
December 8, 2009 at 6:42 pm
kelly K
This may be off topic but do others find it strange how a family where the parents raise them in a certain way, have all their child be all so different. What I am trying to say how each child interprets the teachings of their parents is different in viewing. Could it be life experiences that create such a difference between siblings? What I mean is you are raised to be respectful, honest, and make wise money spending decisions. Now one sibling takes all that and throws it out the window and does all the opposite, another may do two or even one other things but not the others. I guess is what I am trying to say is, does this really happen that their parents raised them all the same way but they don’t all follow what the parents taught them. I guess it could be the fact that each are different of course, but maybe also they took the teachings and intrepreted them all differently. Or maybe they had different experiences to things in life and that changed the way they view things? The concept is a little hard for my to grasp. It may be that I just fully do not understand it can even be possible or I am just blind on the subject. It boogles my mind that all being taught and raised the same way and all siblings have different views or totally oppsite views to what they were taught about certain issues/things in life.
December 8, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Krisa N
I disagree with the article that Americans will not return to the free spending way. There are some people who take this recession and thrive to the best of their ability to make sure that they have enough in their emergency funding, and to be able to cover for rent/mortgage, food, and other necessity expenses. There are also the group of people who go out and buy products that does not cost much as it did when the economy was booming. There are also the lower class that lost their job and is struggling to slit the bread into six. I am speaking only for myself. This recession has taught me the value of money and importantly an education that will grant me a stable job. There will be the people who does not care about what situation they are in and will spend at their leisure, and there will be people who are affected by the recession like myself.
December 9, 2009 at 3:13 pm
NimA
Yes, quite an interesting article. Out of the three initial ways of describing Susan, the last in particular is the one in which I’m in agreement of her god given right to do what she likes if she has the opportunity to do so or doesn’t mind the debt. But to the better understanding of the person, quick conclusions and the rhetoric sound bites, does do a disservice to fairly describe an individual.
To the point of spending, I had meager beginnings; I wanted things that I couldn’t afford. But one goes to work, learns the value of a dollar and for some become hesitant to quickly spend that dollar. So one learns budgeting, extending the life of items and making due with what one has even if one does have the financial capability , but there is a stigma for this extreme as well (i.e. cheapskate, tightwad). Personally, I think both (spenders/frugality) are needed. For the economy to rebound, money has to be put into the system, even from the indebted.
McCracken point for Susan of self identity by the result of purchasing items is true for some people who view there status by material possessions, which may be a gray moral issue. But I don’t think that Susan is oblivious or incoherent about what she does in general. But isn’t that the point, it’s just that’s what she does.
December 9, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Nadine S
I think generally we as Americans do tend to live in a materialistic upkeep of sorts. Some could care less about how people see them, but others may keep up their spending in order to keep up that facade of “the good life”. Personally, I think if one has the money then they can spend it as they want. I may not agree with it, but it’s not my money nor my life to judge. This is where I think the idea of “Susan” comes in. As a composite, Susan is not only made up of the those who have the money to spend, it also includes those struggling in todays economy. Why would some people still keep up that idea of buy, buy, buy? Well, it’s simply because that’s what they’ve known or become accustom to. Even in this ailing economy, people don’t want to appear to be anything less than what they were, they don’t want to make it seem as though they are struggling. Keeping up with who you are on the outside is quite a big deal for some. We live in a world where we tend to judge a book by its cover, because first appearance does mean a lot to seveal people. Therefore, even if someone is struggling they will continue to spend due to pride or the environment in which they live. Not all people do this, because everyone is somehow affected by the recent economy. For those who have really had to cut back on spending may, when all is said and done, continue to spend less because they truly learned that overconsumption is unnecessary. Others, on the other hand will quickly bounce back into the mode of American consumption where buying more might bring a sense of happiness. It all depends on how the individual views what is normal…
December 9, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Brenda C
I agree that the “new normal” will be to continue spending after this economic depression. We have seen it in the past after the great depression, it took a while but people continued spending large, and here we are again. After all everyone is a consumer, including myself. The companies have found the way through the media to present sales, special discounts, so we as consumers continue to buy even in this recession. I don’t necessarily agree that one defines oneself by what they wear, or what they buy because this is when judging people comes into play. Many people like myself just like to buy nice things and seem presentable; there are those people though that do go overboard with the spending. Although I agree that many people aren’t described as McCracken explains, he does have a point that this has become a common theme in Americans. If you everyone is honest, people want to have money whether you want to be a millionaire, or just middle class. That is why there are so many “get rich quick” schemes because these companies know that nobody likes to struggle, we prefer to have money. Since everyone wants money we tend to buy things to make the illusion that we have money or some people just like buying nice expensive things. Examples in my family, are people over the age of 50 still do not pay off there home, or don’t own a home, because they rather have expensive cars and gadgets, than invest and save. I believe (personal opinion from observations) if a person consumed a lot before the recession, once the recession passes they will consume a lot again. I am not talking about all people because everyone is different, and I do agree with some people that the recession has opened the eyes of some Americans to stop spending and save. Some people though, not even in this recession have slowed there spending. I work at a doctors office where we see patients and many times the people say they are in need of money, but yet they have expensive, really nice cars, expensive name brand clothing, there hair is done, and there nails are done. These people even in a recession still have money (or loans, credit cards) to pay for all their expensive consumptions. This shows that some people will be large consumers even after the recession. This topic is a debatable one, but a great one to bring up for discussion.
December 10, 2009 at 2:08 am
JeffF
I think in general people will return to their spending ways once the recession is over, assuming it doesn’t get worse. It seems like most people havent been hit that hard from the recession. just by the people I know. Most of my family have retained there jobs, but there have been some that got laid off. At my job hours were cut, and I do spend less as a result, but I don’t see the recession affecting the way I spend in the future once I finish school and get a full time steady career. However, if unemployment jumps to 40% and lasts for 10 years, then of course peoples spending habits will change when the recovery happens.
As far as the case of Susan goes, it is hard to pass judgement or come to any accurate interpretation from the information presented. Does she live in a well to do neighborhood and have well to do friends will a higher than average income? Does she have narcissitic personality disorder and want her new room just to show off and be superior? Is she a compulsive spender that just cant help herself? I understand that its just a hypothetical situation to prove a point, but it seems like its too oversimplified. All four of the interpretations given in article could be true depending on the actual details of a real person.
December 10, 2009 at 3:25 am
Marlene Ortiz
This article projects “Susan” as being under many different types of influences. He uses her as an example of how Americans spend their money in times of a recession and how people are driven by their desires, self-image, and their projected image. I do agree that American spending will go back to overspending if we do get out of this “crisis.” People fall into patterns of spending and it is hard to change personal habits as well as the image they create for themselves. For all we know, “Susan” could very well have built a “great room” because she genuinely wanted to be a part of the guests she entertains. Who wants to be in one room, while people are laughing and enjoying themselves in another room? No one wants to feel left out in their own home. Maybe “Susan” really is superficial and wants to show off to her friends or maybe she really doesn’t have the money, but felt the need to impress her friends and keep up a certain image. She could be in debt just like a lot of people are. You can never really know a person based on what you see. That is why “not judging a book by it’s cover” is helpful in anthropology. Keeping an open mind can be extremely hard to do because a lot of us have a quick instinct to want to make quick judgments. The study of anthropology does not make judgments, but rather tries to understand why people do the things they do. I completely agree with the statement made, “Morally judge her if you will, but if you want to understand her, leave your judgments at the door.” This sums it up for me.
December 10, 2009 at 6:29 pm
BiancaA
As an American consumer I can relate very closely to Susan. We tend to live beyond our means. We like eating out, having nice stuff and driving nice cars. We dream of having big luxurious houses. Everyone defines thier exterior by the type of stuff they own. When we come home from work we like to surround ourselves with things that give as comfort and a sense of relaxation. If an American consumer works 60 hours a week at a low income job and wants to come home to a 50 inch flat screen TV….who are we to judge him/her??? Americans will continue to buy things that make them happy. People work hard for their money and like to have some type of physical evidence that they can look at to exemplify their work. It’s human nature to be competitive. Competition is a great thing. It drives us to succeed. So naturally we want to have better stuff then our friends or co-workers. The recession has affected everyone. People are more reluctant to spend on certain things. Those of us who have been forced to cut back have but those who have not lost jobs or had their hours cut back have most likely not made any type of modifications in the way they spend. That’s usually how society works we won’t make any type of changes in our lifestyle until we absolutely have to. We will continue to not recycle and drive half a block to the store until the earth is almost completely destroyed. Society is stubborn and if we want something we will have it no matter how long it takes to pay it off. We’re not going to live within our means….that’s no fun. We are always going to want more. For example a man buys a flat screen TV and loves it for about a week. Then he goes over to his neighbor’s house for a BBQ and sees that his neighbor has the same TV but he has it mounted on a fancy pull out wall mount. He also notices his neighbor’s blue-ray player. So of course the man has to have the wall mount and a blue ray player. It’s natural. We can’t judge the man who wants his wall mount and blue ray player this is driving our economy. However one can buy as much stuff as they want but it doesn’t define them. The materialistic things in life give us a glimpse of who people are. People let us see who they want to be portrayed as. Naturally society will judge them and make assumptions by what they drive, where they live, what they wear.
December 10, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Brandon Wright
In situations like Susan’s, it is important that we keep an open mind when interpreting her behavior, and spending behavior of Americans in general. There is indeed symbolic meaning behind spending in the American culture, all of which is not new or unique to the present time and generations. Some people do spend money and buy things as a way of showing their status, what they can afford, and what they have. I agree that people have that right, especially those who work hard for their money. It may not necessarily be an attempt to show others what they can afford, but rather their way of rewarding themselves for their hard work and fruits of their labor. It is also important to consider alternate reasons as well. In relation to Susan’s kitchen, maybe the remodeling project was more of a comfort issue. No one should feel uncomfortable in his or her own home, and Susan made changes so that she and her guest could feel comfortable and not excluded from each other. As far as her garage goes, I don’t think she is proud of the fact that she has clutter and uses the garage clutter as a sign that she has lots of things. Maybe she has a lot of clutter because the items have value to her or symbolic representation. She probably worked hard for those items and wants to keep them just incase there is a need for some of them down the road. She will not have to spend more money for the items. She also may have sentimental value attached to the items as well.
Overall, I believe that this is not a situation unique to Susan. No matter what the cause is, it is a part of many American’s lifestyle, and can even be an American cultural issue is which value is placed on items that show status, or make on comfortable. The concept of the kitchen remodel can be looked at as great hospitality as she may be a social person who loves to be around others, and has the natural need for human love and affection.
December 10, 2009 at 8:46 pm
MarleneS
I think this article had a lot of truth in it. I do agree that Americans do buy what they want and like. It doesn’t mean they can afford it, but they do find a way of buying it. Such as credit card, loans, or even borrowing money from others. I think people may feel they need to prove or show others how they want them to see them. For instance, Susan just spent 45 thousand dollars in remodeling her home. Now can she really afford it? No one knows. All we know is that she did it and it looks nice. That is all we on the outside can see.
I do think that this depression has opened some eyes of Americans and they are realizing the value of money. But I don’t think that goes for everyone. There are still lines of people waiting at restaurants. No matter what time of the year it is, the mall always seems busy. I know we’re in an economic depression right now but I believe that people will not learn from this and will not be prepared for it, if it ever happens again.
I must say that I have been one of those Americans that has purchased items that I really did not need but bought it anyways because I simply just wanted it. For example shoes! I have tons of shoes and I sure did not need another pair of black pumps but, I saw a pair that I just had to have and I bought them. I feel that once I am done with school and in the real world making money. I probably will be like Susan and will spend money on things I like. I think I should and I deserve it. Don’t get me wrong; I do not want to put my self in big debt. I think the main problem is people not knowing when to draw the line. When enough is enough. Some people just have no control on spending their money.
December 10, 2009 at 10:38 pm
kelly K
I think tha everyone has that side of them where they do just spend because they really want to. We are human and if you have the money at the time why not thats why and how all these companys and manufactures continue to make their products. Its a cycle and like some may say, hey we can’t take your money with you when you die.
December 10, 2009 at 11:19 pm
Raul Lopez
Given the current worldwide economic turmoil, which began with corruption in the housing market, I find this article appropriated in our circumstances. I do agree with McCracken, that American society is defined by our ability to consume. As a society, we never have enough. For example, we are constantly teased our neighbors, co-workers, colleagues, or friend, in having the latest gadgets or fashion trends. This social theme is embedded in us to spend on stuff that we don’t need. I dare to say, that Americans only think about themselves and their possessions. We are judged by the car we drive or on what side of town we live in. From an outsiders perspective we are judged by the things we own. In the sample of Susan, she represents all of us as Americans. As stated in the article, “acts of personal and social self-definition.” Susan is no different from Fresno state students. As the cost of education continues to rise, we as students are drowning in student loans; and yet we purchase the latest iphone-which costs over $300 bucks. Despite, the fact that most students are broke, we spend and live a life for today only. We don’t think about tomorrow, the only thing that matters is having the gadgets and in-tuned with society’s trends. If I understand, McCracken correctly, Susan is not at-fault for her greed, when in fact, it is society that molds us to consume. Interesting enough, this American characteristic to consume, is what makes this country rich. The more we spent the more taxes we pay. Our consumption is what makes this country coveted by other nations. I wonder if the ‘New Norm’ will take place, now with the economy going hay-wire. I doubt it because, this inner need to have things, is in our blood, we need to have it! Does anyone know when Apple will have the new i-touch in stores?
December 11, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Jasmeen K
Americans, for the most part, are known to be materialistic. We are so much wrapped up with our wants that we have turned them into our “needs”. There are many times I find myself saying, “I need these shoes, I need this shirt, or I have to have these pairs of jeans.” We have always been taught the basic needs: food, water and shelter; everything else is a want. I agree with McCracken when he says that after the recession, everyone will be going back to their old spending habits. Some people save now because of unemployment, or because they don’t have extra money to spend, but once the economy goes back to normal, there will be the same pattern of spending.
I also agree his other point of us using money and being materialistic to show who we are. In the case of Susan, who spend 45,000 to remodel a kitchen, we don’t know if she had the money to do it, or she did the remodeling just to impress her friends. In the article, Susan’s life was described as being empty and meaningless; based on that we can assume that the remodeling and spending money was just to make herself feel better. Recently, my aunt spent close to $30,000 to remodel her kitchen and living room, she took out the carpet in her living and replaced with tiles; also in the kitchen, she upgraded everything. After the job was done, she called my mom and started talking about how pretty the kitchen looks, or how nice the new appliances in her kitchen are. Now, my mom is just so anxious to remodel our own house (which is just 5 years old). My aunt’s old kitchen was perfectly fine, but just upgrading everything to show higher status, and bluffing about it after is a habit of a lot of Americans. We tend to spend so much money just to show off to others even if it is putting us in debt. In stores, we see something eye-catchy, we buy it with our credit cards.
For many of us, we spend money to look good in front of others. This is because a lot of people, including myself, judge based on appearance. I am always told by my mom that I should eat to my heart’s content, but wear what looks pleasing to others, so other people won’t judge. I think this is mostly cultural, but the reason we do many of the things we do is because of how people might look at us. I don’t think there is anything wrong with that, but when we have to go out of our way to buy things that we know we can not afford, then it is a problem. I mean, I have seen college students driving Lexus, BMW, or Mercedes. Some might be able to afford them because of their parents, but I don’t think a full time college student will be making anything other than minimum wage, to be able to afford that kind of luxury. Still, some take the money they have and spend it on things they might not even need, but just to fulfill their desires. I don’t think that there is anything wrong with fulfilling ones wishes, but it seems logical to do so when you have a good job, and good money, but otherwise it is foolishness.
December 11, 2009 at 10:37 pm
ErinM
I do agree to a certain extent that some people will continue on spending their money as fast as they can once this recession is over. However I don’t want to generalize because there are, I’m sure, quite a lot of people who have learned from this financial crisis and are doing the smart thing by spending less and saving more. And then of course there will be people in the middle who do save and then in a few years or even months they go back to their bad habits. I also agree the Americans do use consumption to maintain their social status. However I feel that maintenance of social status is common in every culture no matter what country you are in. It is sad to say but I feel that is just human nature.
December 12, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Paul Mabry
I would definitely agree with McCracken’s findings, which are that in general, we have become a consumption-oriented society, trying to keep up with the Jones’ and on a quest to keep up with the latest and greatest, whether it’s a car, an iphone, or a complete remodel of our home. From a neutral and objective standpoint, one might agree with McCracken that consumers like Susan aren’t necessarily shallow or materialistic just because they rely on these things to define who they are, but is that really the type of society we want to become? I’m not going to pass judgment on Susan because most Americans today, myself included, are guilty of unnecessary and excess consumption. But, it makes me take pause and question the reason that we feel the need to find our identity, and fulfillment in objects. I would also agree with McCracken’s conclusion that the current economic times won’t necessarily create the “new normal” of more conservative spending and less consumption. Old habits die hard, and for most Americans, the recession is simply a bump in the road, not a permanent deterrent from spending. This is probably due in large part to the fact that our government has intervened so aggressively to prevent many Americans from facing the true harsh reality of a depression. During the Depression of the 20’s and 30’s, the stock market crashed, and people starved to death. They lost their homes, their possessions and endured more difficult times than most Americans can imagine. As a result, people like my Grandmother who saw her parents struggle through the depression, understood how to stretch a dollar. Her goal was to pay off her modest home early and she and my grandfather saved their money for a rainy day. Today, the government has stepped in to funnel billions to banks, help people stay in their homes, and extend unemployment benefits for months and months. I don’t necessarily disagree with the government intervention when it comes to helping people who were truly victims of economic circumstances beyond their control, but let’s face it – a lot of people, from banking executives who made irresponsible decisions, to people who overspent and lied on their loan applications to buy the bigger home, are benefiting from this assistance. This begs the question, have people really learned to tighten their belts, save more and spend less? I doubt it.
December 12, 2009 at 1:39 pm
CelinaG
A very interesting posting in my opinion. Of course Americans will resume their free spending ways after the recession, in fact, I’m not convinced that most Americans aren’t practicing free spending ways through the recession. It’s all over the news that stores and restaurants are being impacted by this recession and are shopping less and eating out less but I don’t buy it. I still can’t find parking spots at shopping centers, there continues to be long waits at popular restaurants and the traffic around major shopping centers is worse than ever and not just during the holidays. Susan is American, materialistic, status seeking, spending her hard earned money however she pleases….that’s just called being American. I’m not proud to call myself an American for this reason but it’s the truth. Our cities are designed around malls and shopping centers, almost every commercial is selling a product, usually products we have plenty of but every year there’s a new model car, iPod, cell phone..whatever. We can’t watch movies, theater, concerts without spending more than what the show is truly worth. It’s not that we have made social lives that revolve around consumption, it’s that there isn’t a single activity a few people can partake in that doesn’t involving losing a ton of money. The large money making industries such as those involved with food and beverages have used their power and money to design our cities so that not consuming is impossible. It’s easier to find a Starbucks than a library. There are more gyms in my neighborhood than parks but not enough security at the parks for me to feel safe enough in the evening to go for a run, so I have a gym membership. Christmas has become a consumer holiday and even people who are not religious partake in the consumerism that is the holiday because society has mandated that if you don’t give gifts than you are a Grinch. Maybe Susan is materialistic, shallow and over indulgent but she is a product of her society. Maybe we use the product world to define ourselves but what else has America left for us to define ourselves with. The role models of America are rich celebrities with questionable morals and the people who are suppose to look out for our best interests are rich and corrupt politicians. I disagree that Susan is trying to define herself through consumerism, I think she is trying to be a good American, and the only thing that unifies Americans is shopping and money, we are not much else.
December 13, 2009 at 1:04 am
Isabel Gonzalez
I absolutely agree with the idea of Americans returning to old habits and consumption levels that were seen pre-recession. It is embedded in the culture of being American; spending and consuming for the purpose of self gratification and establishing status. Americans always want a bigger house, the newest gadgets, and more land which can be traced to our earliest roots. Another thing that I noticed in Susan as well as in me and others is that we as Americans convince ourselves to spend more or consume more. Just as Susan developed the excuse for merging the kitchen and living rooms together for the purpose of actually entertaining guests instead of being their “slave”, we all do a similar thing. We begin to tell ourselves “I deserve this”, or “It’s my money I work for it…” or other excuses to motivate us to buy more. I am also willing to bet that a large number of American have not changed their spending habits, or if so only very slightly. Some American may see the benefits of conservative spending however a great majority in my opinion still continue in their same care free spending. The reason I believe this is because the factors that contribute to care free spending are still present and will always be present despite the economy’s health. We shop to feel better about ourselves and to establish status by having the newest materials.
December 13, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Daniella Echeveste
I agree with McCracken and many of the other readers that material objects the car we have, the more features our phone does, the aesthetics of our houses are all signs of wealth that people (society) use to define a person status. This really has nothing to do with the type of person that Susan it is really reflection of the society. I agree with the statement that Susan is “an American socio-cultural creature whose life is sensible and meaningful to her given her time and place. “ This statement makes me think of the saying “keeping up with the Jones” Americans can’t help wanting/getting with others (especially neighbors). For example if one neighbor gets a new pool put in another neighbor may put in a bigger pool and maybe add a waterfall to ”one upping” the neighbor. It’s really society that labels others social status, American society most often use material objects to label ones status. Would a person label someone who wears shirts and pants that have holes (not the fashionable kind) and drove and old beat up car wealthy? With no other information an average person would say that this person would be poor, however the actual person may just be a penny saver and more wealth than they are showing others. American want others to know that they have money, it very much a sign of high status and this high status often comes with special privileges. The average American does not want to live an average life. Many people strive for the “American Dream” which is to own their own home and support their family, but I think that society has changed the average standard of living. Having cable TV and indoor cooling/ heating systems have become an average standard of living for many. Susan is not a materialistic person who only cares about impressing her friends, she is simply a member of our society who is living an average life.
December 13, 2009 at 4:32 pm
KaelynC
I think its very unfortunate that a majority of people after the recession are most likely going to return to their money spending ways. Isn’t bad spending habits and other factors the reason we are in the recession now? I thought the blog was very interesting and brought up so very good points about not being biased towards people. I think its sad that our society has developed into a very superficial materialistic orientated society. It is true that in fact some people may spend a great deal of money in order to be more socially interactive, but I also think there are ways to be more thrifty and still able to entertain and interact with people.
December 13, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Michelle smith
I agree with McCracken although I do not know much about how our economy works. I think as soon as our economy stabilizes and people are making money again they will be out spending it. I work at a home improvement store and people are still out spending money like there is nothing wrong. The American people like to impress others this is what they are about. Why do you think so many people in this country have so much debt? Because they want everyone else to think that they have money that they in reality do not have. I do not think that Susan is selfish for wanting a more open house to better socialize with her guests. Maybe if they really needed something else and she choose to remodel instead but it does not sound like that is the case. She did not tack up her credit cards to do it. If they had the money then I do not see anything wrong.
December 13, 2009 at 11:32 pm
Michael Brown
I’m pretty quick to judge people, especially when it comes to materialistic ones who live lavish lives. McCracken makes me think differently now. When I see people with really nice cars or wearing expensive flashy clothes – I always assume they are doing it because, like stated in the article, for status or filling an empty void. I now have a new outlook on these materialistic people. They could be in fact doing it just because they are trying to define themselves personally or socially – a much more positive and realistic way of looking at this situation. I for one, am pretty bad when it comes to self-control – especially when it’s something I really want, be it a new drumset, guitar, or anything else for that matter. Now when I think about why I want to buy these things I always come to one honest conclusion. I’m doing it for myself – not for anyone else. Not for “display” or filling an empty void – it’s purely for myself and what I enjoy doing, it helps me define who I am and what I enjoy doing.
I don’t think that there will be a new norm. Once we are out of this recession I believe that everyone will resume back to their old ways – just because it will be okay to do it. People say, “Oh, I can’t buy this because of the economy blah blah” once we are out, everyone will start back to their old ways because they couldn’t afford to buy or didn’t feel comfortable buying certain things during the recession. Once the media starts saying we are out of the recession, every thing will turn back to normal. At least that’s what I think.
December 14, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Brendyn Koerper
All throughout life it is important to have an open mind. It is easy to look at an overweight person eating a Big Mac and automatically assume that they are over-weight due to their eating habits. The truth is there is a lot going on that is not seen until you take the time to know the person. They could have a health condition, maybe eating a Big Mac is something that done in extremely rare circumstances. The same is to be said about Susan. Maybe she decided to do the remodel for other reasons (maybe even unknown to her). Perhaps she has always hated her kitchen setup. It could possibly be that the house she grew up in had an open kitchen and subconsciously that made it feel like home. She spent her money the way she wanted. People in the United States are very trained and used to buying. It is a very materialistic nation and that does affect everyone. Once people feel stable in the economy they will most undoubtedly spend and buy as if there was never a recession. History tells us so. When more people are trained for the jobs offered than incomes will rise, unemployment will drop, and stability will increase. Everything takes time but once people feel comfortable again they will be buying houses and businesses. Nobody likes the feeling that they have no control of their future, money, job, or even their nation’s stability. For all we know that is the reason the over-weight women decided to eat a Big Mac it was something that she was able to control and had the power to make the decision. It could very well be the same concept with Susan. Maybe the subconscious thing is not that of comfort from past experiences but that of taking control of her life.
December 15, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Kip Macarthur
I think that there are three different types of people in regards to this article. There’s the people like “Susan” that these economic hard times have not affected at all. She has continued living her life as if our economy is not in any kind of recession. I feel like these people have the right to continue spending their money the way that they want because if they earned the money then it’s their choice on what they want to spend it on. The second type of person is the one that has slowed down their spending during our depression, but will return to their normal ways once our economy is back on track. This type of person has been affected by the slow economy, but has not learned their lesson and will return to their free-spending ways. The third type of person is the one that has found their “new normal.” These people will continue being “stingy” with their money even after the economy returns to its normal state. These people will be very frugal with money from now on because this depression has shown taught them a great deal about saving and being smart with their money. I feel that it’s up to the person which “type” of person they are going to be, but it also depends on how much money this person makes. I think that the majority of people will be “type number two” that returns to their free-spending ways.
December 15, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Andrew Liddle
The best, most accurate predictions about the future are generally based on observations of the past. It’s funny – we learn about history all through grade school and college, yet, when it comes right down to it, most of us make the same mistakes over and over again throughout our lives. I love the old saying, “A smart man learns from his mistakes, but a wise man learns from the mistakes of others.” I would add to the end of that, “however, most people are neither smart nor wise.” Maybe that’s just the cynic in me, but we don’t have far to look in our history books to find examples of big blunders that have been made more than once. Just one example was Hitler’s approach to trying to conquer Russia. He went about it in pretty much exactly the same way as Napoleon, with similar results. (This is one case where the blunder was fortuitous.) I’ve heard one definition of insanity being that someone tries the same thing over and over again, expecting different results. By that definition, it would seem that mankind in general are a bit on the loony side. The point I’ve been coming to in a somewhat roundabout way is that people are generally set in their ways, and I have very little doubt that once things start looking up again (i.e. when the newspapers tell us that the economy is alright again), people will go back to their haphazard, willy-nilly spending habits again. Only a real calamitous, extended period of economic depression tends to have any lasting impact on people’s spending habits, and despite the grandiose title of “The Great Recession,” this has not been that bad of an economic downturn.
December 16, 2009 at 12:02 pm
KrumeichP
This is an interesting post, but not one that is saying anything new. America is a capitalistic society, because it is a free market society (anyone buys, and anyone sells – supposedly). It is, I believe, the nature of humans to want more stuff, it is the greed instinct inside us. So, when Susan wants to remodel her kitchen for 45,000 dollars, she does so for a few reasons: She wants to make her house look nicer (for herself), she wants to make her house look nicer (for other people), and she probably feels like she owes it to herself for being in a position to get a 45,000 dollar remodel job. As to the question of whether or not this is a wrong thing to do, I cannot make judgment, because I am not Susan and I do not know her situation in its entirety. However, I can make a judgment based on my personal feeling and personal situation. I agree that America has the stereotype of being a greedy nation consumed with stuff and status, but I am an American and this is not me. I believe that enough is better than too much, so if my house has a nice kitchen and doesn’t really need to be remodeled, I probably wouldn’t spend the money to get it done. There is another aspect to the story, suppose that the Susan’s house was set up in such a way that it didn’t allow for good social interaction. If Susan is a very socially active person who has people over to her house regularly, then considering a remodel job would definitely be a possibility. There are many ways to look at someone’s position and decide whether or not they are acting responsibly (I fear the word responsibility is becoming obsolete in much of society), but it really isn’t your opinion or mine that matters. What we need to be concerned with is our own lives and how we conduct ourselves, financially as well as in every other way.
December 16, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Kyle C
This article brings a lot to the table for many. The so-called “Susan” is being looked down upon because of the hard earned money that was legitimately worked for by the family. If one can afford things like a remodel or four sports cars in the garage then why not buy those things. In this economy the rich are getting richer and the poor poorer. Consumers cannot be afraid to spend a little money here and there. If the states can get so far into debt, why can’t we? That’s silly to think like that, right? Well at this point in our history that’s where we are. We can’t judge “Americans” from what they consume then look down on them, we should look at them as the fix to our failing economy.
December 16, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Taylor Hiyama
I don’t agree with McCracken and his idea that Americans can’t change their spending habits. I believe after the economic crisis people will be more aware of how they send their money. I think we will look back and see how foolish we were wasting money and be smarter with spending. In the case of “Susan” McCracken does not go in depth and there could be other reasons “Susan” remodel her home. In the blog posting anthroguy points out other valuable reasons why “Susan” remodeled her home. But McCracken comes to the conclusion that fits his theory. I know that not everyone will change and there will people like “Susan” after the economic crisis but I believe the majority of us will change for the better.
December 16, 2009 at 2:54 pm
JenniferB
I believe that there will be spending when the economy picks up. How much and by whom i cannot answer. I know that there are many who have not been hit as hard financially by this recession and I suppose that they will continue on their merry way. But there are also other who i know have had a life changing experience. For example, I previously worked on a commission only job. Someone i knew from that job has lost two house because of the drop in sales, spike in variable rate loan and his renter being unable to pay the rent. He has had to declare a bankruptcy and his credit is ruined, he couldn’t spend extravagantly if he wanted to.
Would i judge “Susan” for her spending on her home? no, definitely not. I think we are all entitled to spend out own money as we wish. I just don’t appreciate those who ask for a bail out from the government and then turn around and give out million dollar bonus or complaint about the strain on their business when having to may a portion of the loan back.
December 17, 2009 at 1:45 am
Jennifer Hernandez
I have to agree with McCraken about the “new normal”. American’s can not wait for the opportunity to get back to where are economy used to be. The reason I agree is because I saw it first hand on “Black Friday”. I had never gone to any “sale” the day after Thanksgiving because I did not think it was worth standing in line for hours just to buy something that might be sold out, or the same price as any other time. This year my younger brother convinced me to go with him to BestBuy. I thought that perhaps it might not be as packed as I have seen on T.V., we headed to the store when it was about to open. When we got there my brother had to park across the actual store parking lot, while I got in line. Needless to say the line was very long. If the economy is so bad, why are there still people waiting in line to spend, what they do not have? My brother had been saving his money from his first job, to buy himself a laptop, since it’s his first year in college. “Susan” is an adult, with a house, and bills, I do not see how she could still afford to remodel. Many people are losing their homes, and she is spending $45,000 on a “great room”. I suppose that money has to circulate somehow, and I understand that not everyone is in the same position, but if we are in this “Great Recession” I would be saving that money instead. “Susan” doesn’t seem like she is shallow, she is just a social person. Perhaps, she likes to invite people over to help them forget about their financial struggles and have fun for a change. Maybe we shouldn’t be quick to judge only because someone can afford to remodel and we can not. We are unequal and there will always be someone that can afford something that we cant, even if we are in a recession or not.
December 17, 2009 at 2:35 am
Sally S
No one really has the right to judge other people and what they do with their own money or lives. We all have our own reasons for what we say, do and purchase that may or may not make sense to other people. We need to take the time to understand the reasons behind people’s actions without judging them, which is the basis of anthropology. Once we understand someone, it’s really hard to judge him or her.
Some people, like “Susan,” will continue to spend money even if they don’t have any because it is important to them to be seen as though they do have money. They are always the ones who have the biggest houses, newest gadgets and the nicest clothes. No one would ever guess that they couldn’t afford these things. Appearance is everything to these people and they will do anything to keep others seeing them as they did.
Other people will cut back on their spending until times get better, saving their big purchases and projects until they have the money for them or until they absolutely can’t wait any longer. These people want nice things, but cannot justify getting them if they can’t afford them and can live without them. Once the economy picks up, these people will go back to their old spending habits.
A few people will cut back on their spending permanently out of the fear of another recession. These people will be deemed “frugal” as they are the type that clip coupons and look for the best deals before making any purchases. They will hold off on their big purchases and projects until they absolutely can’t wait any longer.
Another group of people would be those who continue spending because they don’t feel that they need to watch their spending. They feel secure because they’ve saved their money for a rainy day, or because they feel their incomes are secure, or because they feel it is their duty to spend money to encourage the economy.
Ultimately, everyone spends money and often what feeds a recession is people’s hesitation to spend their hard-earned cash in uncertain times. It’s hard to jump-start the economy when there is little cash flowing into retail.
December 17, 2009 at 4:24 am
Angel Mendez
I think that it would be wrong to judge Susan. We may see her practices as wrong or over indulgent but as is stated in the blog, she is merely a product of our society and in the eyes or our society she is thriving and achieving what most of us have been taught to achieve. As Americans we are defined by our positions and people label us by our possessions. How many times have you described someone by the car they drive or ladies, by the purse they have? It happens all the time! Should we be ashamed of what our society deems successful? Probably. The waste our country produces is matched only by our consumption but that doesn’t mean we are going to change our ways. I grew up in poverty, literally wearing the same clothes to school for days. The only consolation given was that all this suffering would all be worth it because through school I would be able to buy and afford whatever I wanted. Now that I’m at the cusp of achieving this goal, I’m not sure I want it; but I’m sure am gonna get it! I agree with McCracken. Our society will not maintain its frugal status that it has held during this recession. We are eagerly awaiting that day when we are told that it is OK to spend and consume at “break-neck” speeds once again. When that time comes the shopping malls will once again be filled and the land fills will once again be overflowing.
December 17, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Maria A
There are many Americans that keep things in their garage. Most of these things they buy thinking that they are so cool or that they need to have it because its the newest thing out there. But in reality they really don’t need it. All they need it for is to either keep it in their garage or to show it off. I really believe that people buy things without thinking how the product will help them out in the future. They don’t ask themselves questions as to do I really need this or is it just the spur of the moment kind of thing. I myself have bought many things and I have them in my garage. At the moment I bought them I thought I needed it because of all the things the commercials would say about it but in reality I didn’t need it. I don’t want to get rid of it either because just maybe I may need it later. But I won’t.
December 17, 2009 at 11:43 pm
lawrence l.
everyone is different in who they are and how they spend there money during this economic troubled situation. lets look as susan a person who has no worries of what is at hand economically. she has stayed in her own ways of living and spending. but to i feel like in order to stablize the economy they always come after the lower and middle class people first, i think it should start at the top then work its way down. then we go down to the people who do spend then when something like this hits we start to see a change in the amount we spend and start setting our limits money wise and in what is more important. then once everything is ok economic wise we will start going back to spending. finally we have the new normal. these people are greedy with there money. these people know that one day everything will come tumbling down the the great depression and learn that the past can repeat itself if we are not too carful. overall i believe that we are in the catageory of the second type of person that will be aware of what they spend and go back to spending on whatever they want.
December 17, 2009 at 11:53 pm
Lawrence L
everyone is different in who they are and how they spend there money during this economic troubled situation. lets look as susan a person who has no worries of what is at hand economically. she has stayed in her own ways of living and spending. but to i feel like in order to stablize the economy they always come after the lower and middle class people first, i think it should start at the top then work its way down. then we go down to the people who do spend then when something like this hits we start to see a change in the amount we spend and start setting our limits money wise and in what is more important. then once everything is ok economic wise we will start going back to spending. finally we have the new normal. these people are greedy with there money. these people know that one day everything will come tumbling down the the great depression and learn that the past can repeat itself if we are not too carful. overall i believe that we are in the catageory of the second type of person that will be aware of what they spend and go back to spending on whatever they want.