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	<title>Comments on: Analytic Induction and the Imposition of Truth</title>
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		<title>By: Tigon A.</title>
		<link>http://theanthroguys.com/2009/11/09/analytic-induction/#comment-1059</link>
		<dc:creator>Tigon A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who haven&#039;t got it.” ~ George Bernard Shaw

Your comment on &quot;out-of-the-box&quot; thinking and challenging common sense had me thinking for some reason about our military today.  In a culture such as the military that values unquestioned obedience, the orders and directions of your leaders, and rigid structure with no questions asked, how can one foster &quot;out-of-the-box&quot; thinking without the backlash that follows?  

General Petraeus is an interesting and also successful case in point regarding bucking the norm and eschewing &quot;common sense&quot; that lead to the results he wanted.  Before Petraeus, current Army trends in Iraq lead to the notion that troops needed to be &quot;bunkered&quot; in large military posts for security and protection from the &quot;enemy.&quot;  This was a common sense approach to force protection and standard Army doctrine.  It was unquestioned until he stepped in and looked at our way of fighting the insurgency from an &quot;out-of-the-box&quot; approach.

Instead of occupying large bases away from the Iraqi public, go opposite to that thinking and place large numbers of troops in small teams located unprotected spread out in the city.  Common sense would have screamed objection to this but ultimately it proved sucessful because he thought of it not from a soldiers prospective of Iraq, but from an Iraqi&#039;s perspective of the soldiers.

Think outside-in instead of inside-out and although the naysayers may at first object, it can often prove successful.  Without understanding the thought behind his orders, opposition screamed madness when General Patraeus outlined his plan.  But, there was &quot;a method to the madness&quot; and a reasoning behind his approach.  He threw common sense out of the window, rethought his approach, and came up with a brilliant solution to his problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who haven&#8217;t got it.” ~ George Bernard Shaw</p>
<p>Your comment on &#8220;out-of-the-box&#8221; thinking and challenging common sense had me thinking for some reason about our military today.  In a culture such as the military that values unquestioned obedience, the orders and directions of your leaders, and rigid structure with no questions asked, how can one foster &#8220;out-of-the-box&#8221; thinking without the backlash that follows?  </p>
<p>General Petraeus is an interesting and also successful case in point regarding bucking the norm and eschewing &#8220;common sense&#8221; that lead to the results he wanted.  Before Petraeus, current Army trends in Iraq lead to the notion that troops needed to be &#8220;bunkered&#8221; in large military posts for security and protection from the &#8220;enemy.&#8221;  This was a common sense approach to force protection and standard Army doctrine.  It was unquestioned until he stepped in and looked at our way of fighting the insurgency from an &#8220;out-of-the-box&#8221; approach.</p>
<p>Instead of occupying large bases away from the Iraqi public, go opposite to that thinking and place large numbers of troops in small teams located unprotected spread out in the city.  Common sense would have screamed objection to this but ultimately it proved sucessful because he thought of it not from a soldiers prospective of Iraq, but from an Iraqi&#8217;s perspective of the soldiers.</p>
<p>Think outside-in instead of inside-out and although the naysayers may at first object, it can often prove successful.  Without understanding the thought behind his orders, opposition screamed madness when General Patraeus outlined his plan.  But, there was &#8220;a method to the madness&#8221; and a reasoning behind his approach.  He threw common sense out of the window, rethought his approach, and came up with a brilliant solution to his problem.</p>
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		<title>By: chihiro M</title>
		<link>http://theanthroguys.com/2009/11/09/analytic-induction/#comment-950</link>
		<dc:creator>chihiro M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 01:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the power of common sense is typically unassailable.  Left unchallenged, “common sense” – supported by humans’ penchant for retrospective sense making.  However, I do not really understand that  analytic induction as oxymoronic.  But analytic induction is not an oxymoron.  What difference these two things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the power of common sense is typically unassailable.  Left unchallenged, “common sense” – supported by humans’ penchant for retrospective sense making.  However, I do not really understand that  analytic induction as oxymoronic.  But analytic induction is not an oxymoron.  What difference these two things.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Grubb</title>
		<link>http://theanthroguys.com/2009/11/09/analytic-induction/#comment-785</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Grubb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 06:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started to depict the underlying meaning of Michael Moschen’s statement; “I like not to know for as long as possible because then it tells me the truth instead of me imposing the truth.”

It reminded me of a teacher who repeatedly told our class that there is no truth. Truth is subjective to the person in which the “truth” is being told to. Jut because something is “true” doesn’t mean you have to believe it; so to you, it isn’t the truth. 

Moschen’s statement calls to mind the inquiry, “Does the end justify the means?” More clearly, if you look at the end result of a situation, are the factors leading up to it acceptable? 

What if you don’t know those fluffy extra facts and just know the end result, then you don’t have to ponder if the means were correct, valid, justifiable, proper, etc, or if they weren’t. In essence, it doesn’t alter your perception by supporting or being opposed to the outcome. 

Often times people look at the journey but not the final destination. Perhaps Moschen is a person easily influenced or extremely judgmental and doesn’t like to know extra information because it will cause him to think negatively or give excess praise to something that doesn’t deserve that treatment. Is this right for you? Well I guess it depends on your personality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started to depict the underlying meaning of Michael Moschen’s statement; “I like not to know for as long as possible because then it tells me the truth instead of me imposing the truth.”</p>
<p>It reminded me of a teacher who repeatedly told our class that there is no truth. Truth is subjective to the person in which the “truth” is being told to. Jut because something is “true” doesn’t mean you have to believe it; so to you, it isn’t the truth. </p>
<p>Moschen’s statement calls to mind the inquiry, “Does the end justify the means?” More clearly, if you look at the end result of a situation, are the factors leading up to it acceptable? </p>
<p>What if you don’t know those fluffy extra facts and just know the end result, then you don’t have to ponder if the means were correct, valid, justifiable, proper, etc, or if they weren’t. In essence, it doesn’t alter your perception by supporting or being opposed to the outcome. </p>
<p>Often times people look at the journey but not the final destination. Perhaps Moschen is a person easily influenced or extremely judgmental and doesn’t like to know extra information because it will cause him to think negatively or give excess praise to something that doesn’t deserve that treatment. Is this right for you? Well I guess it depends on your personality.</p>
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		<title>By: Jasmeen K</title>
		<link>http://theanthroguys.com/2009/11/09/analytic-induction/#comment-781</link>
		<dc:creator>Jasmeen K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 06:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, we tend to block the truth that we don&#039;t want to face and pretend to live in our own world of lies where everything is good. Many people run from reality because it is scary, and tend to hide themselves in own little world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, we tend to block the truth that we don&#8217;t want to face and pretend to live in our own world of lies where everything is good. Many people run from reality because it is scary, and tend to hide themselves in own little world.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 04:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, if we were to just wait a while to think our answers through we may find a better solution than just the first one that pops into our heads. This will help us to get rid of the time when we do do the first thing that pops into our head and later we ask each other why did I do that, I could have done something different which could have been easier. If you do go outside the box as you said there may just be something that is better than the result you may get before you actually took the time to think well of your other options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, if we were to just wait a while to think our answers through we may find a better solution than just the first one that pops into our heads. This will help us to get rid of the time when we do do the first thing that pops into our head and later we ask each other why did I do that, I could have done something different which could have been easier. If you do go outside the box as you said there may just be something that is better than the result you may get before you actually took the time to think well of your other options.</p>
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		<title>By: NimA</title>
		<link>http://theanthroguys.com/2009/11/09/analytic-induction/#comment-766</link>
		<dc:creator>NimA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The quote by Michael Moschen is very poignant. The aspect of intuition and stern hard facts, I believe should both be used. We have the abilities and minds to sift through information and place it in its appropriate categories, be that with what we “feel” and what we know. I think there is a credibility factor to which we rely on for the things we do know without question and then there are the “gut-instincts” that can be right or wrong, or perhaps somewhere in between. I don’t believe that analytical induction is an oxymoron, since given that the first part of this process is based on what is determinedly already known, and the next step would be based on this. And instead of just broadly swinging ideas and theories, an actual systematic process can develop wherein these ideas and theories can be refined and developed.
     I also interpreted the statement by Moschen “I like not to know for as long as possible…” as not giving what is known full credibility, so one can be open to other possibilities or options that wouldn’t be open to them in general. I don’t think there is nothing wrong in this regard since some of our greatest discoveries were determined by someone “thinking outside of the box.” But doing this blindly or whole hearted based on intuition might be foolish and time consuming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The quote by Michael Moschen is very poignant. The aspect of intuition and stern hard facts, I believe should both be used. We have the abilities and minds to sift through information and place it in its appropriate categories, be that with what we “feel” and what we know. I think there is a credibility factor to which we rely on for the things we do know without question and then there are the “gut-instincts” that can be right or wrong, or perhaps somewhere in between. I don’t believe that analytical induction is an oxymoron, since given that the first part of this process is based on what is determinedly already known, and the next step would be based on this. And instead of just broadly swinging ideas and theories, an actual systematic process can develop wherein these ideas and theories can be refined and developed.<br />
     I also interpreted the statement by Moschen “I like not to know for as long as possible…” as not giving what is known full credibility, so one can be open to other possibilities or options that wouldn’t be open to them in general. I don’t think there is nothing wrong in this regard since some of our greatest discoveries were determined by someone “thinking outside of the box.” But doing this blindly or whole hearted based on intuition might be foolish and time consuming.</p>
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		<title>By: Sally S</title>
		<link>http://theanthroguys.com/2009/11/09/analytic-induction/#comment-763</link>
		<dc:creator>Sally S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Common sense does have to be challenged. If no one challenges common sense, then many incorrect things assumed to be correct because they are “just common sense.” For example, many settlers of the American West assumed that the natives were savages. It was common sense to them, since they were different. Because someone challenged this common sense, we know that they were not savages simply a different culture. Besides common sense, when looked at from the larger perspective, is not common at all. I, for example, find it practical to keep some candy stashed away for when I just need something sweet. To me it’s common sense to have something sweet on hand as it tends to make me less cranky, but not everyone feels the same way.

I would prefer to discover something for myself than have someone just tell me if at all possible. There is more pride and understanding involved in a discovery of a concept or an idea than if it is handed to one on a silver platter. That is why there are experiments as a part of science classes. In the anthropological sense, it is why researchers actually collect data instead of just using “common sense” to infer things about a group of people. Observation is the best way to learn about a great many things especially people. Now that’s just common sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Common sense does have to be challenged. If no one challenges common sense, then many incorrect things assumed to be correct because they are “just common sense.” For example, many settlers of the American West assumed that the natives were savages. It was common sense to them, since they were different. Because someone challenged this common sense, we know that they were not savages simply a different culture. Besides common sense, when looked at from the larger perspective, is not common at all. I, for example, find it practical to keep some candy stashed away for when I just need something sweet. To me it’s common sense to have something sweet on hand as it tends to make me less cranky, but not everyone feels the same way.</p>
<p>I would prefer to discover something for myself than have someone just tell me if at all possible. There is more pride and understanding involved in a discovery of a concept or an idea than if it is handed to one on a silver platter. That is why there are experiments as a part of science classes. In the anthropological sense, it is why researchers actually collect data instead of just using “common sense” to infer things about a group of people. Observation is the best way to learn about a great many things especially people. Now that’s just common sense.</p>
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		<title>By: JenniferB</title>
		<link>http://theanthroguys.com/2009/11/09/analytic-induction/#comment-758</link>
		<dc:creator>JenniferB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to agree with the quote by Michael Moschen.  I too would prefer to not know as long as possible so that I may find the truth on my own rather than have the truth imposed upon me. I believe I have a better understanding when i am able to work out a problem and draw connections on my own. We can see through out history when &quot;truths&quot; are imposed upon us, such as the example given previously,  &quot; the earth is flat&quot; or &quot;the earth is the center of the universe&quot;. I think that we can rely on common sense and what other&#039;s tell us too much. Haven&#039;t you ever heard someone tell you something they believe to be an absolute truth by starting the sentence &quot; They say ...&quot;. Who are they and were are they getting their information? I think it is important in any field to think outside the box. If we never tried to learn a new truth how can we move forward toward progress? I would think that in this day and age and after seeing where we have had common sense be wrong before we would try to challenge ideas. I also agree with Whitney Menefee when she pointed out that the ability for humans to think analytically is degenerating from lack of practice and not due to ability or lack of intelligence.   With the improvements in information technology, we have access to so much information and research.Why are we out of practice and why are we content to be part of the flock of sheep? While I do feel we should challenge common sense, I do also believe that when a piece of common sense has been validated it is perfectly acceptable to use as fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to agree with the quote by Michael Moschen.  I too would prefer to not know as long as possible so that I may find the truth on my own rather than have the truth imposed upon me. I believe I have a better understanding when i am able to work out a problem and draw connections on my own. We can see through out history when &#8220;truths&#8221; are imposed upon us, such as the example given previously,  &#8221; the earth is flat&#8221; or &#8220;the earth is the center of the universe&#8221;. I think that we can rely on common sense and what other&#8217;s tell us too much. Haven&#8217;t you ever heard someone tell you something they believe to be an absolute truth by starting the sentence &#8221; They say &#8230;&#8221;. Who are they and were are they getting their information? I think it is important in any field to think outside the box. If we never tried to learn a new truth how can we move forward toward progress? I would think that in this day and age and after seeing where we have had common sense be wrong before we would try to challenge ideas. I also agree with Whitney Menefee when she pointed out that the ability for humans to think analytically is degenerating from lack of practice and not due to ability or lack of intelligence.   With the improvements in information technology, we have access to so much information and research.Why are we out of practice and why are we content to be part of the flock of sheep? While I do feel we should challenge common sense, I do also believe that when a piece of common sense has been validated it is perfectly acceptable to use as fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Liddle</title>
		<link>http://theanthroguys.com/2009/11/09/analytic-induction/#comment-745</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Liddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that much of what we call &quot;common sense&quot; is culturally defined, but there are a lot more &quot;common sense&quot; ideas that are deeply ingrained in our psyche. &quot;Common sense&quot; dictates that it&#039;s not very smart to let a Black Widow crawl on your bare skin, and the natural fear of spiders that most people have is reflective of that. It&#039;s also &quot;common sense&quot; that it&#039;s not a good idea to stand on the edge of a cliff and lean as far over the edge as you can, ergo most people have a healthy fear of heights. Our self-preservation instincts are a direct result of &quot;common sense&quot; thinking. So, while &quot;common sense&quot; may not be the best solution for some situations, it is important to remember that, in many ways, &quot;common sense&quot; is largely responsible for the survival of the human race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that much of what we call &#8220;common sense&#8221; is culturally defined, but there are a lot more &#8220;common sense&#8221; ideas that are deeply ingrained in our psyche. &#8220;Common sense&#8221; dictates that it&#8217;s not very smart to let a Black Widow crawl on your bare skin, and the natural fear of spiders that most people have is reflective of that. It&#8217;s also &#8220;common sense&#8221; that it&#8217;s not a good idea to stand on the edge of a cliff and lean as far over the edge as you can, ergo most people have a healthy fear of heights. Our self-preservation instincts are a direct result of &#8220;common sense&#8221; thinking. So, while &#8220;common sense&#8221; may not be the best solution for some situations, it is important to remember that, in many ways, &#8220;common sense&#8221; is largely responsible for the survival of the human race.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Liddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Liddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that it is important to note that “common sense” is a direct result of thousands of years of evolutionary pressures that selected against individuals whose mind frame didn’t allow for “common sense.” Today’s world is very different from the world that faced our ancient forbearers. The problem is that some of those modules, or mindsets, in our brains have become somewhat outdated. It behooves us, then to “think outside the box,” so that we can come up with better ways of solving problems than our ancient ancestors were inclined to. This is not to knock the evolutionary way of thinking about things, or “common sense.” It has worked for us for many thousands of years after all. Some would say, “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” I would say, “What can a little tweaking hurt?” It was “tweaking” that brought us the advent of the airplane, development of the semiconductor, and the modern miracle of the internet. For thousands of years people have waited for the “aha” moments to strike seemingly at random. I think it’s fantastic that we are developing systematic ways of extracting those “aha” moments instead of waiting for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that it is important to note that “common sense” is a direct result of thousands of years of evolutionary pressures that selected against individuals whose mind frame didn’t allow for “common sense.” Today’s world is very different from the world that faced our ancient forbearers. The problem is that some of those modules, or mindsets, in our brains have become somewhat outdated. It behooves us, then to “think outside the box,” so that we can come up with better ways of solving problems than our ancient ancestors were inclined to. This is not to knock the evolutionary way of thinking about things, or “common sense.” It has worked for us for many thousands of years after all. Some would say, “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” I would say, “What can a little tweaking hurt?” It was “tweaking” that brought us the advent of the airplane, development of the semiconductor, and the modern miracle of the internet. For thousands of years people have waited for the “aha” moments to strike seemingly at random. I think it’s fantastic that we are developing systematic ways of extracting those “aha” moments instead of waiting for them.</p>
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